A Chat with Grace Asbury

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I mean, I think music is the most cathartic thing in this

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world And if you really think about

it, if you took music out of our just

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everyday life, if music didn't exist,

it'd be the weirdest experience ever.

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So it's just always in the background,

but then I think so many people I mean

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That's why the biggest artists can do

what they do I mean you look at Taylor

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Swift so many people think like feel that

they've lived her songs or they know her

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or They help that have helped them through

things I think that's like the biggest

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gift that we have as songwriters is

being able to Do that for people because

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I, I always tell people when they're

like, what do you want out of this?

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Like I want to impact people in a way that

they feel they can listen to my music and

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it did something to them, whether it made

them happy, whether it made them laugh or

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just like made them cry their eyes out.

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Jason English (Host): Welcome to

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It was really fun to see Grace Asbury

perform recently late on a Friday

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night at Eddie's attic in Atlanta.

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The 25 year old Atlanta native and

current Nashville resident showcased

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her entire arsenal of talent from

her sweeping emotional vocals to her

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clever creative songwriting with a lot

of personality and charm in between.

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But what struck me most about that

night and from the conversation I

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had with her for this episode Was

her sentiment and authenticity.

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one hand, she is putting herself

out there, trying to be seen

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and heard by whomever will give

her three and a half minutes.

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You can see the ambition

and commitment in her eyes.

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She wants it, whatever "it" is.

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But there's more to her than

just being an ambitious singer.

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The sentiment and authenticity was really

embodied by her storytelling and the

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stories I heard before the show, waiting

for the doors to open from friends and

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acquaintances who remember watching Grace

perform when she was in middle school.

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You can tell they want her dreams

to come true as much as she does.

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Maybe because of her talent, maybe because

of how tight knit her family is, or maybe

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because of the nightmare they collectively

experienced four years ago with the

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passing of one of her older brothers, Sam.

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She talks about that

experience and sings us a song.

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She penned shortly after the

tragedy, which is both inspirational

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and heartbreaking, but beyond her

voice, beyond her catchy lyrics,

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it's going to be the authenticity

grace has in her core that will help

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her achieve what she and her close

network so desperately want for her.

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Will she make it?

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You never know in Nashville, but with her

talent, with her support system and with

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that authenticity, my bet is she does.

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I hope you feel the same after

listening to our conversation.

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Here's Grace Asbury.

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Let's dive in.

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Hi, Grace.

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Nice to meet you.

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Nice

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Grace Asbury: to meet you as well.

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Thanks for having me.

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Jason English (Host):

Well, thanks for your time.

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Of course.

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So you're in Atlanta for the weekend.

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Anything going on this weekend in Atlanta?

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Grace Asbury: I have a show

tomorrow at Eddie's attic at

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9 15 PM and it's gonna be fun.

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It's kind of, I haven't

had a show in a minute.

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I have a lot of new stuff and I'm

excited to get to share that with people.

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It's gonna be fun.

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Jason English (Host): All right.

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Well, Eddie's Attic is legendary.

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What kind of set do you have planned?

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Grace Asbury: So it's very much, I

have a little bit of my old stuff

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sprinkled in there, but since being in

Nashville, I've had so many co writes.

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So it's just kind of, and we're in like

this rebranding phase of my career.

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So it's this whole kind of new vibe

that I'm bringing to the table.

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So it's just a lot of.

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Like, you know what, here's the new

stuff, here's me as a lot of these songs

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you might be hearing in the next few

years, so I'm really excited about it.

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It's going to be in very acoustic

listening room vibe and we're going to

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have a good time and I have a couple

covers thrown in there so people are going

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to know the words, but don't go there

thinking you're going to know my songs.

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Jason English (Host): Right.

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Well, that's kind of the point is to

get to know singer songwriters, right?

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Have you, you, have you

played at Eddie's before?

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Grace Asbury: I have.

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I've played two times before.

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One was with a full band.

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Really fun.

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Great, great energy.

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And the second was just kind of a

broken down drummer and guitar player.

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Not fully acoustic, but

like kind of acoustic.

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So, that was really fun and

then I just, that was the show

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I realized like, you know what?

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It's more fun to play in this room

with a very stripped down vibe.

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Yeah.

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Jason English (Host): Yeah.

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I get that.

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So you grew up in Atlanta.

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I think you've played, obviously you've

played Eddie's before, like you just said,

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and I think you played Buckhead theater.

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Grace Asbury: I had.

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Jason English (Host): So what, what are

the top two venues you want to play in

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the next five years here in Atlanta?

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Oh my gosh,

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Grace Asbury: That's a great question.

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Jason English (Host): Tabernacle,

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Grace Asbury: I know um

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Jason English (Host): there's the Roxy,

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Grace Asbury: Roxy is one.

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I would think that would be really cool.

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I would love to even play, I mean

this is ambitious, but like, it'd be

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amazing if I got to like State Farm

and stuff like that, just good, growing

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up, those are giant stadiums and

arenas, just being from Atlanta would

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be, I've gone to so many sports and

things and concerts, I'm like, that'd

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be amazing if I was in there, but yeah.

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Jason English (Host): yeah.

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No, that's good.

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That's good.

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Uh, how long have you lived in Nashville?

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Grace Asbury: I moved last June.

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So, pretty fresh.

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Not even a year in yet, but it's been

a whirlwind since I've been there,

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Jason English (Host): Yeah.

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And you went to UGA?

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Yes.

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Uh, you grew up here.

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You went to UGA Helder, you know?

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Grace Asbury: I'm 25.

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Jason English (Host): So you're 25.

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All right.

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All right.

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So 25, I'm assuming single in Nashville.

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Grace Asbury: I'm not single.

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Jason English (Host): You're not single?

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No,

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Grace Asbury: I'm not.

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I moved with my boyfriend actually.

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Yeah, he's also my drummer.

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So we're very tied in.

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Jason English (Host): but the

collaboration's very good.

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Grace Asbury: It is.

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It's, um, he wasn't my drummer when

we started, or he wasn't my boyfriend

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when we started playing together.

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And then we just kind of hit it off and we

both made that leap together to go there.

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And it's really nice because it's

a big move and it's kind of amazing

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to have a support system there.

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So it's been almost a

godsend to have him there.

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Jason English (Host): So describe

to the audience life in Nashville

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in your mid twenties trying to sort

of make it in the music industry.

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I mean, is it exhilarating?

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Is it is it everything in between?

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Grace Asbury: I would say at first

it's a little like nerve wrecking.

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Um, I'm a very outgoing person and so

it's fun to be there and meet people.

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It's extremely different.

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vibe, I guess, that

I've ever been used to.

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Because I felt like in Atlanta

I was kind of a no man's land.

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I was kind of doing

country music on my own.

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And I'm a really competitive person.

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So being in Nashville has kind of

like, upped my game a little bit.

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Like, I have to prove myself.

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I want to be here.

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And it's been really, really fun,

but there's times where, you know,

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my first couple of co writes,

I would walk out and be like,

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I'm

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Was that really all, am I good at this?

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Like, was that stupid?

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Cause you just, people write

so differently and I never

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really co written with anybody.

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And I didn't know how they were taking

me as an artist or as a writer.

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And I was like, maybe they, but then

they asked if they wanted to do it again.

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And I was like, okay, so they must want

me back and they must like me, but.

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It is a little like messes with your

head a little bit and you have to

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just kind of fight through it and

just be like, no, I, because I think

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that's how it like weeds people out.

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Like you either get the mentality

of I deserve to be here and I'm

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going to prove it or you just get

kind of scared and pushed out.

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So,

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Jason English (Host): When you're

co writing with somebody, how do

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you meet the other co writers?

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How does that all come, come together?

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So

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Grace Asbury: so some, I do have a

manager who's put me in some rooms with

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like a little bit bigger songwriters,

which is very nerve wracking.

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Um, and then others are just

organic going to rounds throughout.

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Cause there's like rounds all week

at different bars in Nashville and

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you just go and they'll have like

every hour is like four different

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writers and they play their songs.

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And I've done a couple of those

since I've been in Nashville.

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And you just kind of, if you hear

somebody that you're like, Oh, I

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feel like we'd write well together.

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I like what they do.

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You just go up and, Hey, my name's Grace.

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Like I'm in town.

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I'm a country singer.

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And then they're, they're like,

eh, don't want to, or they're

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like, Oh yeah, here's my number.

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Jason English (Host): Well, you

mentioned confidence earlier.

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You've got to have confidence

to, to put yourself in that.

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Situation.

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Right.

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So that, that, that says a lot.

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I mean, that's half the battle, I

think, not just with probably with

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songwriting and music, but also

with business or dating or whatever.

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It's like,

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Grace Asbury: hmm.

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Jason English (Host): you kind of have to

fake it a little bit and probably extend

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yourself and be like, I have to think

better or think more about myself than I

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probably am to put in a situation where

you can probably have that opportunity.

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Is that what you find?

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Grace Asbury: finding?

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Very, yeah.

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I definitely, it's like kind of

staring fear straight in the face.

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Cause my dad is like Mr.

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Salesman.

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So he is like no fear when it

comes to just walking up to people.

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And I wish I had a

little bit more of that.

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Because, and he's really

like trying to ignite me.

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I have part of it.

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But that's one of the biggest things in

Nashville that I've had to just like.

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Push that wall down like break it down

because it's like you have to be totally

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okay walking up to people and then being

I don't want to write with you or I don't

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and because a lot of times they'll be like

oh yeah let's do it but it's like if you

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just never ask people or try you're never

gonna make those like connections and make

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your name known throughout the town like

even just walking up to the people that

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run the rounds that can be a little nerve

wracking of being like hi I would love to

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be a part of this like a lot of people are

like No, I don't want to do that and I was

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kind of like I don't want it to be weird

And I finally was like, okay Like I'm just

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gonna go say hello and say I would love

to be a part of it and it worked I'm like,

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but it is it's just having the confidence

to be able to Go talk to people That's a

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huge thing and a lot of people have talked

about that to me is like that kind of

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separates people in Nashville too, like

if you're afraid to be like forward and

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go talk to people and I was like, that's

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the, some

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Jason English (Host):

Well funny is that some

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of the artists I've talked to talk to as

part of this podcast, I'm kind of shocked

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at how insecure they are and how there's

not a, there's not a lot of confidence

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Grace Asbury: you

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Jason English (Host): and you know, and

so it's, yeah, it's a great point because.

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You could be so talented in songwriting

and on an instrument, but there's sort

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of the intangibles that you probably

need to kind of navigate and make it.

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I think

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Grace Asbury: kind of navigate.

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being an artist

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Is like the creative side really overtakes

and if you think about writers and stuff

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we pull so much from whether they be

our insecurities or just personal life

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or what's happened to us and You do

you're just like stuck in that creative

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state and I feel like I've met I think

that's what really set like songwriters.

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It's pretty okay To be

like that sometimes.

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If you want to be an artist, that's when

you have to be able to kind of have that,

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like, type A alpha in you a little bit.

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You have to, like, I've talked to

a lot of people who have been like,

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you have to believe that you have

something that other people don't have.

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Which is very true, like, cause you

have to make people believe that too.

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Like, I deserve to be here.

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There's, there's a path for

me and I'm gonna prove it.

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And so, I had somebody always tell me,

like, you need to have a chip on your

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shoulder if you want to be an artist.

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You gotta be, like, mad, like,

you gotta, things have had to

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piss you off, and you have to be

like, no, I'm gonna go get this.

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And, I kinda definitely have it,

I like looking at it more of the

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way, cause somebody said, you have

to believe you're better than other

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people, and I was like, I don't

believe that, I believe that I have

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something that other people don't have.

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I think it's a better way of

putting it rather than, I was like,

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I think there's some extremely

talented people in Nashville.

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Jason English (Host): Well, it's

also, it must be kind of frustrating

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because the line, it's a thin line

between quote unquote making it and

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then whatever not making it means.

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I mean, sometimes someone, someone's happy

of just like being a local person that

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does gigs just at the local bar tavern.

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But you know, cause it must be

frustrating because there's a lot of

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people that have quote unquote made it.

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Grace Asbury: Yeah.

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Like,

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Jason English (Host): Like, let's be

honest, they're not that good, right?

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And then some people that, again,

whatever definition of like making

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it is, haven't done that yet.

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And they're so freaking talented and you

just kind of wonder like, what is it?

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You know?

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Grace Asbury: I think it's so it is

because I mean trust me the amount of

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times we've all like been around them

and just like People like this song like

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it's so interesting, but I think it all

comes down to just the people you get

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around you and your team and then what

do you have to offer and like I think a

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lot of times it's not the better vocalist

It's not the better song It's something

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about that person that people tap into

and they do a great job and they find

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something Really specific and like and

they have their own style They have their

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own branding kind of thing and they stand

out like I think Like for example, like

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Lainey Wilson did a great job with that.

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I love Lainey.

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She's one of my favorite artists and

then You know who Megan Maroney is She

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is She's gotten pretty big in Nashville.

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I always she's this thing

called like emo cowgirl.

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That's her vibe she I think sings

like kind of sadder country songs But I

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respect the hell out of her and her team

because they've done a great job like

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pushing her and marketing her in a way

like Nobody looks like her in country

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music and she's done a great job at that.

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And I think that's really It because it's

like there's so many talented people in

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Nashville, and there's so many talented

songwriters and singers, but it's like

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what's What's gonna be the thing in the

path that you take that nobody else?

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Will be able to like get there before

you and I think that's One of the most

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important things when you're trying to be

an artist Is like finding that and like

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getting people around you that can help

hone in on that and I've really gathered

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a team around me and we've With the new

songs that I have coming and I'm excited

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because I feel like we're heading down a

path and it's like, all right, no female

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in country is like hitting this right now.

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So I'm excited.

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Yeah.

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Jason English (Host): Well, you

mentioned the reset earlier.

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Tell us more about what

that actually entails.

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Grace Asbury: So I did

have like three singles.

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2019

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to 2021 ish, I would say,

like all through COVID times.

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And then we had an album

follow and that was awesome.

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It was a great experience.

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It was, the album was kind of all over

the place in my opinion, just because I

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was younger and I was just writing like

a bunch of songs and I didn't really

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have like an idea of what my path was.

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And when I started to get a

band around me, I did, but we.

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Unfortunately, we had added some

people on to that team who had added

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a lot of fake numbers to my stuff.

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So fake streams on Spotify,

fake stuff on Instagram.

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And it, it hurt me cause a

lot of the social media places

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started to really crack down.

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They wanted to be really authentic.

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So, I started to get like hidden,

blocked, and I had to delete

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everything, start from scratch.

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And so now We've made the ultimate

decision just to take everything

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down so I could have like the best

opportunity of actually growing

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and I was kind of in a place where

I didn't think it would hurt me.

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So we were like, let's just

start from ground zero.

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And I'm in this whole, and it's

really fun because it's kind of like.

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A whole new life and like new energy and I

get to just put my next single out and be

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like, this is my sound now and everything

that will follow will be similar and

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all line into like the Grace Asbury sound

and people will know when they hear a

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song like, oh, that's got to be her.

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So

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Jason English (Host): Well,

what is the Grace Asbury sound?

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Grace Asbury: it's a great way.

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That's a great question.

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I asked, I told one of my friends

about it and she was like, I feel

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like I just need to hear the song.

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And then when I told her when

she heard the song, she was like,

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Oh, I know what you're saying.

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It's like a more gritty sound to

female country, like very, has

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southern rock elements, the big

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tones, guitars, you know, rock

heavy, big, really percussion based.

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Um, and just has a little bit of

like the pop side in it, but not

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the way you would hear it today.

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I think the best way is like, just

like fierce grit coming at you.

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I'm a big vocalist, so we use that

to my advantage and it's just, yeah.

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And it's kind of the content for majority

of my stuff is not usually what you hear.

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So I'm excited about that too.

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You can hear it soon.

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So like

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Jason English (Host): Yeah, that's good.

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So kind of back to Nashville, what

you're doing now, sort of ahead of

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the singles coming out and this reset,

are you gigging like every night?

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Grace Asbury: I'm well

pretty much every night.

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I'm in such like a connection based time.

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So like every night I'm going out

meeting people Usually it's just

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every weekday, which is kind of funny.

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The weekends are my chill time because the

weekends is more just the touristy bars,

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crazy

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cover bands.

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And I go out.

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Monday through Friday, pretty much.

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I go to all different rounds,

whether it's the listening room, or

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Live Oak, or the local whiskey jam.

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I just want my face to be seen.

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Try to talk to people, meet people.

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And it's just getting your face and your

name out there, and the more they see me.

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I have a very specific look every

time I go out, so I've started to

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be like, like I've seen you before.

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I'm like, yep.

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I've been here.

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I've always had my cowboy hat on.

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That's my go to.

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And it's just That's the vibe, that's what

I do, and I've been playing, which is my

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biggest thing right now, is getting in

those songwriting rounds, and I've done

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about five or six of them now, so just

being out there and having my name out

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there, so, and I think the goal is to get

more gigs this year, more like paid gigs

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and stuff like that, but, um, right now

it's just kind of like being in the scene.

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My dad likes to say, go

where the target market is,

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Jason English (Host): is.

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He's got, yes, he's got,

yeah, he's a sales guy.

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That's

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Grace Asbury: very much

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Jason English (Host): so

where, what are your sources

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of inspiration for songwriting?

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I mean, some people may

say, well, she's 25.

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What

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There's no, you know, what has she

possibly experienced to, you know, to, to

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lead to heartbreak songs or, or whatever.

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: 00:18:45

But, you know, everybody

goes through shit.

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Grace Asbury: right?

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Jason English (Host): Yeah, what's,

what's your main source of inspiration for

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songwriting or does it, does it depend?

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Grace Asbury: for it?

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Really, it kind of depends.

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Some stuff is really personal.

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Some, cause I, I have, I'm, I know

I'm young, I'm 25, got a lot more

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life to live, hopefully, God willing.

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But I have had a lot happen to me in my

life so far, and I've had a very blessed

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life, but definitely have had challenges,

and then some of it is just ideas.

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I might hear somebody talking and be

like, oh, that's an interesting, like,

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concept, or, cause I think the most

fun songs are actually, the personal

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songs come easy, in my opinion.

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You feel it.

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You write it and it's just like within

you, but I really like a song where

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it's just you have to build a story.

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those songs are fun because they're

challenging because it's like I'm that's

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I didn't live that life but it's kind of

fun to step into that storyline and write

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a song that people Can like literally

see in their minds when they're listening

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to it, and I think as a songwriter you

know, you've been given a gift to be

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able to put certain things into words

and melody and people are like, oh my

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gosh, I've lived this and I feel this

and Whether or not I've lived it I'm

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kind of speaking for maybe somebody

that has or I wrote a song that speaks

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for them So it's that stuff's always

fun to me, but it's a mixture for sure

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Jason English (Host): So you mentioned

you've, you've been through a lot.

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Uh, you've experienced

a lot of grief, I guess.

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Yeah.

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Tell us about that.

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Yes.

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Grace Asbury: um, unfortunately, when

I was, It was actually the, um, It was

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2020, so it was the four year mark.

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On February 11th, so a few days ago.

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Um, my brother took his own life,

which was really surprising.

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I remember getting the

call and I was at UGA.

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: 00:20:39

It was like driving back from my workout.

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: 00:20:41

I remember the street I was on Macon

Highway and my dad called me and I was

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going home the next day because my brother

was living with my parents at that time.

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: 00:20:49

He just graduated from UGA it

was just like for six months, just

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: 00:20:53

living while he made some money.

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: 00:20:54

He had a great job at Northwestern

Mutual, was a financial

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advisor and everyone loved him.

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: 00:20:59

Like he was funny.

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: 00:21:00

He was like the athlete in high

school, you know, just a great guy.

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: 00:21:05

Like he's the funniest guy

I've ever known in my entire

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: 00:21:07

life, like wittiest, hilarious.

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: 00:21:10

And I got a call from my dad and he

was like, what are you doing right now?

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: 00:21:14

I'm like driving back from my workout

and he's like, okay, um, are you, I was

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: 00:21:20

like, I'm about to pull into my apartment,

I was living with my friends and he was

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: 00:21:24

like, Sam like took his own life today.

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: 00:21:28

I thought it was a joke.

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: 00:21:29

I literally was like, that's not funny.

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: 00:21:30

I don't know why you're saying that to me.

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: 00:21:32

So, um, cause I was like, I think

the first thing he said when

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he said Sam, I said Sam Asbury.

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: 00:21:38

And he was like, yeah, and

he was so numb on the phone.

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: 00:21:41

That's what I knew.

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: 00:21:42

And he's like, I wish I was joking.

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: 00:21:44

And it was just like, I

was in shock for a minute.

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: 00:21:48

And luckily my best friend who I lived

with at the time, I like called her

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: 00:21:53

and I was like, Hey, where are you?

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: 00:21:55

And she knew right away

from my tone of my voice.

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: 00:21:58

She's like, what's going on?

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: 00:21:59

What's wrong?

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: 00:22:00

And I was like, I just told her

and she stopped everything, like

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drove home and got there, but it

was a really, it was a whirlwind.

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: 00:22:09

Cause it was just like, so shocking.

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: 00:22:12

But after that,

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it was

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: 00:22:14

just a long road of, like, because then,

right after that COVID came, so that was

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: 00:22:20

like, my whole family was locked in a

house together, and we're all grieving in

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: 00:22:24

different ways, and it's just If you've

ever dealt with like grief, you know

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that people deal with it so differently.

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: 00:22:31

I kind of felt like the

backbone of the family.

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: 00:22:33

My dad was super strong.

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: 00:22:35

He compartmentalized very well,

and my brother, who was in the

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military at the time, he's now home.

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: 00:22:40

But he

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really

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strong too, but it just was,

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: 00:22:45

Jason English (Host): it

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Grace Asbury: it was weird, like it was

a very, I don't even, And, like, you go

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through these, such these big waves of,

like, happiness, and then you feel, like,

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: 00:22:54

guilt, almost, for being happy, and it's

weird now, because my life is so different

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than when that happened, you know, I have

a boyfriend that he never met, I live in a

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state that he was never in, and It's just

so interesting and it's like my parents

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: 00:23:11

don't live in the same house anymore they

used to live in and we've sold everything

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: 00:23:15

that Sam was a part of so it's like

There's times where I like it hits me

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: 00:23:23

Jason English (Host): like,

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: 00:23:23

Grace Asbury: yeah, like all of that

happened And it's weird cuz you feel

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this guilt of like, how could I just

like forget about this and you're like,

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: 00:23:29

well, I didn't forget I'm just I'm in

a new life basically and it's I miss

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him every day and He truly was the

funniest person I've ever had in my life.

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: 00:23:39

He was like my best friend the

last six months of his life.

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: 00:23:42

We went to games together, like,

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together.

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I

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I loved having him around

and we were at UGA together.

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: 00:23:47

But, it is just, it's just, I

think it just comes and goes.

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: 00:23:53

I started crying the other day, it

just, my friend just texted me randomly.

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: 00:23:58

And I was like, hey, I just

wanted to check in, I haven't

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: 00:24:00

asked about this in a while.

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: 00:24:01

How do you, and I'm big on

like, feel every single emotion.

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: 00:24:05

Like I went, this might sound

interesting to some people, but

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: 00:24:09

I, I went and like yelled at my

brother, like at his gravesite.

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: 00:24:13

Because I was so mad.

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: 00:24:15

Because to me, it's like, there is a

selfish side to suicide, but you also get

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: 00:24:20

to this place of like, it's so horrible

that they get to that place, you know?

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: 00:24:23

So, but like, I'm like, be angry, get mad.

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: 00:24:28

Like, I did that and it helped so much.

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: 00:24:30

And then it allowed me to like, get that

anger out, and then of course I was there

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: 00:24:34

and I was like, I miss you, I love you.

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: 00:24:36

But it's just, when I want to cry, I cry.

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: 00:24:38

When I want to be

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: 00:24:39

be

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upset about something, I am, you

know, it's like, you can't, the more

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: 00:24:44

you try to like box it in, you're

just going to implode one day.

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: 00:24:48

Jason English (Host): So the

age difference with you and your

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brothers, you guys are all pretty,

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Grace Asbury: All pretty close.

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: 00:24:52

We're all a year and a

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: 00:24:53

Jason English (Host): Yeah.

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: 00:24:54

So it's, yeah.

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: 00:24:55

So I have a daughter and two sons.

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: 00:24:57

She's the oldest, but they were all

a year and a half to two years apart.

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: 00:25:01

So really, really tight.

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Are you in, in your brother today?

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: 00:25:05

How has that impacted your, your

relationship with your, your brother?

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: 00:25:08

We were

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Grace Asbury: all like

always pretty close.

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: 00:25:11

We kind of went through the waves

of like, you know, the siblings.

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: 00:25:13

I was the one they targeted, and

then it turned into we targeted Sam,

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: 00:25:17

and then Sam and I targeted Ben.

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: 00:25:19

So, it was like, that, but we,

as we got older and older, we all

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: 00:25:22

just like, grew up a little bit.

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: 00:25:24

But, um, I would def Ben was probably

my strong point when it all hit.

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Cause he came home from the military,

and I, I didn't want to cry in front of

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my parents, cause I was like, especially

my mom, cause I was like, she got the

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: 00:25:39

brunt of it, and like, I, I can't be that

person, and my mom's been through so much.

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: 00:25:44

She's the only one

standing from her immediate

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: 00:25:46

Jason English (Host): family.

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: 00:25:46

And like,

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: 00:25:47

Grace Asbury: And like, now her son.

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: 00:25:48

I was like, are you kidding me?

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: 00:25:50

So, I didn't want to cry,

I didn't want to be upset.

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: 00:25:52

But when Ben came home, and we picked

him up at the airport, I just like,

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: 00:25:56

fell into his arms and started crying.

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: 00:25:57

And he was really strong.

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: 00:26:00

And he's very much of that like,

military kind of mindset He cried.

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: 00:26:04

Alright, we get up, we move on.

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: 00:26:06

He's great in that way.

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: 00:26:07

He feels things, but he's Very aware of

we have one life, like we can't just be

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: 00:26:11

sad all the time, which is very true.

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: 00:26:13

But um, so he was definitely the person

that I always leaned on, and I still do.

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: 00:26:19

And we always, we called and talked to

each other a lot when I was in college.

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: 00:26:24

But it's different.

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: 00:26:25

We probably talk to each

other five times a week.

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: 00:26:28

We're very like, Oh, what?

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: 00:26:30

I have nothing to do.

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: 00:26:31

Oh, I'll call Ben.

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: 00:26:31

And it's like, we're both really

talkative and like to talk to each other.

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: 00:26:35

On my ride home, I'd probably

talk to him for an hour.

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: 00:26:38

Um, so he just, yeah, it definitely

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: 00:26:43

you.

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: 00:26:43

I think it can kind of

do both a little bit.

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: 00:26:45

I think in the beginning, it's very,

depending on how people grieve,

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: 00:26:51

like me and you get in fights just

because like you are upset or you're

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: 00:26:57

mad or little things like get to

you and some people are just numb.

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: 00:27:00

Jason English (Host): Well,

trauma, trauma has so many

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: 00:27:03

Grace Asbury: Yeah.

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: 00:27:04

Jason English (Host): you know, it's all,

it's all unexpected, no matter what the,

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: 00:27:07

what the root issue is, if it's, you know,

addiction or death or, or, or whatever.

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: 00:27:13

Right.

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: 00:27:13

So yeah, that's, yeah.

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: 00:27:16

Uh, that, yeah, I can't imagine

what you guys went through on that.

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: 00:27:19

How has that affected you

in the last few years?

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: 00:27:23

Leaving UGA, starting this career

in music, I'm sure you said you

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think about him all the time.

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: 00:27:28

But in terms of songwriting and in

terms of when you're on stage and

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: 00:27:31

performing, you know, what's the feeling?

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: 00:27:36

Um,

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Grace Asbury: it's interesting

actually, right before.

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: 00:27:41

Like two months before Sam had passed,

he'd, I remember we were standing, it was

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: 00:27:45

like before the SEC championship and we

were standing to go into Mercedes Benz.

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: 00:27:50

Um, and I was like, yeah, I

mean, if I make it or like, if I

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: 00:27:55

get to that point and he looked

right at me and just goes, if

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: 00:27:58

Jason English (Host): cool.

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: 00:27:59

Grace Asbury: Grace, like you're

going to make it, you're ridiculous.

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: 00:28:03

And like, I hold that with

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: 00:28:04

Jason English (Host): Hmm.

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: 00:28:04

Grace Asbury: Cause it's just, I always,

whenever I started to doubt myself,

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I'm like, no, and Sam's up there now.

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: 00:28:11

And he's like my angel.

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: 00:28:13

And he's got my back and just

keep your head down and work hard.

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: 00:28:16

And so whenever I know, whenever I

get on stages and like the bigger

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: 00:28:22

they tend to get, or like the

moments I get, I'm always like, have

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: 00:28:27

a little like, thank you up there.

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: 00:28:28

Just like, I know he's looking out for me.

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: 00:28:30

He's watching.

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: 00:28:30

It's just.

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: 00:28:32

I know one day when I get to a point that

I wanted to get to, I'm, there's going to

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: 00:28:36

be like a moment that I'm like, I did it,

and like, we did it, and it's just, it's

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: 00:28:42

really, it's, it's interesting, you know,

I definitely believe God has a plan, and I

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: 00:28:49

don't understand it, and no one does, but

um, he's He's up there watching over me.

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: 00:28:56

There's a reason for this.

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: 00:28:58

I'll see him again someday, but I know

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: 00:29:01

get

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on a stage, he's watching over me, and

he's with me every step of the way.

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: 00:29:04

So, it's just that feeling that I

know I have my greatest angel up

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: 00:29:08

Jason English (Host): Right.

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: 00:29:08

Grace Asbury: Who has my

back, and hopefully he's

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: 00:29:11

putting a good word in for me.

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: 00:29:12

But,

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: 00:29:12

Jason English (Host): good word

in for me, but It's stuff that

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: 00:29:16

like He was like, obviously funny

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: 00:29:19

Grace Asbury: oh, I mean,

it's stuff that like,

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: 00:29:22

Jason English (Host): so improper

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: 00:29:23

Grace Asbury: he was like, obviously funny

to everybody, but I'm trying to, like,

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: 00:29:27

he was someone who was like, so improper.

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: 00:29:30

And would say stuff that,

like, I probably can't say.

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: 00:29:32

But, um, like, he would just do

stuff that, like, if you knew him,

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: 00:29:37

you would He was just ridiculous.

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Like, he would Like, we were

in Italy for some reason, you

615

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know how they say, Arrivederci?

616

: 00:29:44

Like, that's their, like,

is that hello or goodbye?

617

: 00:29:47

I don't remember.

618

: 00:29:48

Um, but for some reason, he would

always just keep going, Areva Derici?

619

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Areva Derici me?

620

: 00:29:55

And then you're just looking at

him like, what does that even mean?

621

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Like,

622

: 00:29:58

Jason English (Host): movie?

623

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Grace Asbury: but you're just like

staring at him like, We all just, if you

624

: 00:30:02

like knew him, you'd be dying laughing.

625

: 00:30:05

And he would always take little

lines from songs and like add them

626

: 00:30:09

into Like, just a conversation and

you'd be like, what's happening?

627

: 00:30:13

Like, it's like little rap songs and

just, he was, he was really funny and he

628

: 00:30:19

just, and he was an asshole, like, like

he was, he was, he could be so mean,

629

: 00:30:25

but it just was like just a brother.

630

: 00:30:28

But, um, he was so amazing

in the way of like, if I was

631

: 00:30:32

upset, he was the only person.

632

: 00:30:35

They could like cheer me up, and in the

funniest way, he would just be like,

633

: 00:30:39

He

634

: 00:30:40

he used to always make fun of

my voice too for some reason.

635

: 00:30:43

He'd act like I was way

more country than I am.

636

: 00:30:46

I would say something and he would

be like, I would, I'd be like, he

637

: 00:30:50

would say something, and then he would

mimic me in a really country accent.

638

: 00:30:54

And I'd go, I don't talk like that.

639

: 00:30:56

And he'd go, I don't talk like that.

640

: 00:30:58

And I was just like, and then he'd

always make this face of just like, and

641

: 00:31:02

like look at me, and it was just like.

642

: 00:31:05

But it was like, he could get under

your skin, but he knew how to cheer you

643

: 00:31:07

up, and one day I was having like a bad

day, and he ran up behind me and picked

644

: 00:31:11

me up, and he's like, gotta take out

the trash, and tried to like throw me

645

: 00:31:14

in a trash can, but it made me laugh.

646

: 00:31:16

He was just he was such a light

and it's just sad to think

647

: 00:31:21

that he didn't see that But

648

: 00:31:24

Jason English (Host): Well thanks for

sharing, I really appreciate that, so

649

: 00:31:28

in terms of dealing grief and then the

underlying things around mental health

650

: 00:31:33

how important is music do you think.

651

: 00:31:36

Not just you as a, as an artist and

a songwriter, but music in general,

652

: 00:31:40

whether, you know, you play, you

listen, how can music sort of help

653

: 00:31:45

people through those, those times?

654

: 00:31:47

I

655

: 00:31:48

Grace Asbury: I mean, I think music

is the most cathartic thing in this

656

: 00:31:52

world And if you really think about it,

somebody has said this to me before,

657

: 00:31:56

but if you took music out of our just

everyday life, if music didn't exist,

658

: 00:32:01

it'd be the weirdest experience ever.

659

: 00:32:03

Like if you, every TV show, every

movie, you're on an elevator, you're

660

: 00:32:07

at a sports game, you're just in your

car, like, it's just, if you took

661

: 00:32:11

music out of stuff, it'd feel so weird.

662

: 00:32:14

So it's just always in the background,

but then I think so many people I mean

663

: 00:32:18

That's why the biggest artists can do

what they do I mean you look at Taylor

664

: 00:32:20

Swift so many people think like feel that

they've lived her songs or they know her

665

: 00:32:26

or They help that have helped them through

things and I think that's like the biggest

666

: 00:32:32

gift that we have as songwriters is

being able to Do that for people because

667

: 00:32:38

I, I always tell people when they're

like, what do you want out of this?

668

: 00:32:41

Like I want to impact people in a way that

they feel they can listen to my music and

669

: 00:32:45

it did something to them, whether it made

them happy, whether it made them laugh or

670

: 00:32:50

just like made them cry their eyes out.

671

: 00:32:53

I think it's just such a powerful thing

and some people don't realize it But I'm

672

: 00:32:58

really lucky that I can write and put

like within Sam after he passed within

673

: 00:33:04

two weeks I wrote a song for him and

it was super super cathartic and I was

674

: 00:33:10

able to Get my feelings out and put them

down on paper, but it's nice, there's

675

: 00:33:16

people that have listened to that song

before, and like, it helps them, and it

676

: 00:33:20

got them to a place where they were like,

that like, did so much for me, and like,

677

: 00:33:24

I just lost my cousin, and she, like,

this song helped me through that, and

678

: 00:33:28

it's just, I think that's what it is.

679

: 00:33:31

Like we have the power to do and

that's what music does and that's

680

: 00:33:35

one thing I always like to remember

is like I don't i'm not in this to

681

: 00:33:38

just like be in the spotlight Like

i'm in this to impact people and I

682

: 00:33:43

believe god put me here for a reason

And this is my way that I get to make

683

: 00:33:46

way An impact on people's

lives and that way so

684

: 00:33:50

Jason English (Host): Good for you.

685

: 00:33:52

Well, I think, you know, obviously

Sam, uh, his passing is awful by

686

: 00:33:58

itself, but when you, like you said,

when you couple that with COVID

687

: 00:34:01

Grace Asbury: Yeah

688

: 00:34:02

Jason English (Host): and then

everything around that, and

689

: 00:34:03

you, you look back at that time.

690

: 00:34:06

And you just don't know what people are

going through, you know, and we all have,

691

: 00:34:11

we all have our ghosts, you know, whether

they're personal ghosts, family ghosts.

692

: 00:34:15

And can you imagine going through COVID,

uh, without music or, you know, the

693

: 00:34:21

situation that your family had to endure?

694

: 00:34:24

Whatever else people doing, you know,

it's just the, it's crazy that, you know,

695

: 00:34:28

just the, like you said, it's cathartic

and it's therapeutic and all the things.

696

: 00:34:33

And, uh, and I think like back to

songwriting, you said you have your,

697

: 00:34:36

your songs that you can sort of put on

paper to help you kind of process things.

698

: 00:34:41

Do you think anybody can be a songwriter?

699

: 00:34:43

You know,

700

: 00:34:45

Grace Asbury: I think journaling is, I

think it's a special gift to be able to

701

: 00:34:49

put things in the melody and build a song.

702

: 00:34:54

But I think anybody can put their

words on paper and it can be cathartic.

703

: 00:35:00

Because I have friends, I mean, I have one

best friend, she can never write a song,

704

: 00:35:03

but she can journal like nobody else.

705

: 00:35:05

Like, she, because I definitely

wouldn't say, I mean, that's not fair.

706

: 00:35:11

Anyone could write a song,

it just might not be.

707

: 00:35:13

just might

708

: 00:35:14

You're calling, but, um, but I think,

I think journaling is like one of

709

: 00:35:19

the most powerful things you can do.

710

: 00:35:20

And just like, even just like

writing down, I'm really big

711

: 00:35:23

every morning and just writing

three things I'm grateful for.

712

: 00:35:26

Jason English (Host): of like a song.

713

: 00:35:27

Yeah.

714

: 00:35:27

Can you share what

715

: 00:35:29

Grace Asbury: for today?

716

: 00:35:30

What did I say this morning?

717

: 00:35:32

I'm grateful, I had like cute ones.

718

: 00:35:34

I was grateful for my dog because

I love being able to wake up to

719

: 00:35:38

such a happy face every morning.

720

: 00:35:39

It's like I'm so blessed to wake

up and I have this dog who's like

721

: 00:35:43

so excited to see me every morning.

722

: 00:35:45

And that was my first thing.

723

: 00:35:47

The second thing was my dad.

724

: 00:35:49

He is my number one

supporter, my number one fan.

725

: 00:35:53

We can butt heads.

726

: 00:35:54

We're very similar, but I know

at the end of the day he wants.

727

: 00:35:58

Nothing but the best for me.

728

: 00:36:00

And he truly is my number one fan.

729

: 00:36:03

Um, and the third thing, was my mom.

730

: 00:36:06

She will pick up the

phone anytime I call her.

731

: 00:36:08

I call her when I'm bored.

732

: 00:36:10

And she is always my

first call in the morning.

733

: 00:36:12

No matter what.

734

: 00:36:13

Hey mom, what you doing?

735

: 00:36:14

It can be a two minute call,

but she's always my first call.

736

: 00:36:16

So those are my three things this morning.

737

: 00:36:18

I just I always have a different one

every morning, but it's just, I was just,

738

: 00:36:23

my dog was really excited to see me this

morning, and I was like, you know what?

739

: 00:36:26

That was fun.

740

: 00:36:27

Like, he was running around the house

and sprinting, and I was like, just

741

: 00:36:31

in a happy, good mood because of that.

742

: 00:36:33

So, which I think we take for

granted sometimes, how amazing

743

: 00:36:36

animals are in our life.

744

: 00:36:37

Because I grew up riding horses

too, and that was also a very like,

745

: 00:36:40

cathartic thing, just to be able to

like, get on an animal and have a

746

: 00:36:42

bond, and it's just very amazing.

747

: 00:36:46

But, I think it's good to reset

your mind each morning and just

748

: 00:36:49

be like, what am I grateful for

749

: 00:36:51

Jason English (Host): Yeah.

750

: 00:36:52

Well, how, I mean, how fortunate are you?

751

: 00:36:54

Cause I know, I mean, I've heard, and

I know a lot of people that female

752

: 00:37:00

growing up, the whole daughter father

relationship was, Either not there or

753

: 00:37:06

it was just completely dysfunctional.

754

: 00:37:09

You know how fortunate you are to have

a dad that's your number one champion.

755

: 00:37:15

Grace Asbury: I can't imagine, you know,

I'm, I'm extremely blessed to have not

756

: 00:37:20

only a dad, but like a family that's

so supportive, but my dad is truly.

757

: 00:37:25

Like, invested to the point where

sometimes you want to just, like,

758

: 00:37:29

grab him and shake him and tell him to

leave him alone, but it's just, it is

759

: 00:37:33

amazing and he would do anything for me.

760

: 00:37:37

Jason English (Host): I

761

: 00:37:38

Grace Asbury: I always come back to it

whenever we get in fights or arguments.

762

: 00:37:41

Or I'm frustrated about his thoughts

about my music or something.

763

: 00:37:44

I always come back to like,

you know, all he wants for me.

764

: 00:37:47

He almost wants me to

succeed more than I do.

765

: 00:37:49

He doesn't, but he's right there with me.

766

: 00:37:52

So it's just, I always come back to that.

767

: 00:37:54

Like he, looking out for

me, wants the best for me.

768

: 00:37:58

Jason English (Host): do a lot worse.

769

: 00:37:59

Grace Asbury: Yeah, yeah, trust me.

770

: 00:38:00

Jason English (Host):

yeah, that's awesome.

771

: 00:38:01

So just real quick, in the rest of

the year, you mentioned the reset.

772

: 00:38:05

I think you said before we

started talking, a single will

773

: 00:38:08

be coming out every couple months.

774

: 00:38:09

Is that what people can expect

775

: 00:38:11

Grace Asbury: Yes.

776

: 00:38:12

So my, not my first single, but my

first single for this year comes

777

: 00:38:15

out next Wednesday, February 21st.

778

: 00:38:18

Honest Man is the title.

779

: 00:38:20

Very excited about that song.

780

: 00:38:22

And then following, we don't have a set

date yet, but I know in April, my next

781

: 00:38:26

single called Slowdown Child will follow.

782

: 00:38:29

And then every five to six

weeks, we'll have a single.

783

: 00:38:34

So you can look out for

four singles this year.

784

: 00:38:36

With a, possibly a Christmas song, and

then if things keep rolling in a great

785

: 00:38:42

way, then an album should be following

at some point, but that is our plan

786

: 00:38:47

for now, so I'm excited about it.

787

: 00:38:49

Got a lot of good stuff in the works, so,

788

: 00:38:51

Jason English (Host): Well,

thank you for your time.

789

: 00:38:52

Grace Asbury: thank you so

much for having me, it's fun.

790

: 00:38:54

Jason English (Host): Uh, we're grateful

for your music and, uh, best of luck.

791

: 00:38:57

Could you play some music for us?

792

: 00:38:59

Grace Asbury: I would love to, yeah,

793

: 00:47:49

Jason English (Host): Thanks so

much for joining us for another

794

: 00:47:51

episode of Curious Goldfish.

795

: 00:47:53

Please follow and subscribe to

the podcast and on social media.

796

: 00:47:57

Also, tell your music

loving friends about us too.

797

: 00:48:00

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