A Chat with Cousin Curtiss & Harrison B

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I think one of the biggest turning points for me was leaving.

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A teaching career,

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to

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be a full time musician.

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And that was, that was eye opening.

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And I was like, okay, cool.

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Well, now you're living your dreams

and you're doing this, but like, how,

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like, what are you going to write about?

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And then it was being on the road and.

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Knowing that there was a greener pasture

quote unquote to like go back to to go

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back to teaching I could always do that.

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I like got my license I could do that

but purposefully not because this

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thing felt more important It felt

more impactful um, and it was so hard

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Jason English (Host): Welcome to

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where music and curiosity come together

through interesting conversations

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com.

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Imagine being in the audience

for one of Billy strings.

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First performances.

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Imagine being a student at the

university of Virginia in Charlottesville

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in the mid 1990s to witness

some of Dave Matthews for shows.

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I'm sure there was a sense of both wonder

and curiosity during those early days,

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wonder at their raw talent and curiosity,

but just how far they might get to go.

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Well, that's the sentiment felt by my

friends and me when we first saw Cousin

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Curtiss at a music festival in early 2024.

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The talent was obvious, the joy was

contagious, and with each performance

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we witnessed, we left longing for more.

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Cousin Curtiss and his musical

collaborator Harrison B.

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are touring the United States in 2024.

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from Colorado to New England, Georgia to

Indiana, Back to Colorado and then again,

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the Southeast, They are crisscrossing

the country, hoping to spread the

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gospel of a unique musical blend

infused with happiness and gratefulness.

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You can sense they're about to

bust a wide open with opportunities

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to open for Blackberry Smoke

and Los Lobos on the horizon.

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Cousin Curtiss and Harrison B are one

of those acts that will undoubtedly

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leave people wanting to see them again.

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Maybe even more so than the

bands they are opening for.

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Their music is unique as is their story,

both hailing from the American West.

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They connected in Alaska of all places.

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I was fortunate to connect with them

while they came through Atlanta.

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I got to spend an afternoon with

them on the golf course with

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my good friend, Jeremy Fort.

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And we later hosted the duo for a

special backyard show at Jeremy's house.

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A couple of songs from that

performance round out this episode.

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And I caught up with cousin

Curtiss and Harrison B in between

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golf and the red stool session.

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You'll soon be able to watch

the entire performance from

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Roswell, Georgia on YouTube.

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It's quite the setting and it

was another standout performance.

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So here's Harrison B

from Seattle, Washington.

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And from Montrose, Colorado,

here's cousin Curtiss.

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Let's dive in.

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What's up fellas?

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Cousin Curtiss: are we doing today?

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Jason English (Host):

Welcome to Roswell, Georgia.

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It's good to

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Cousin Curtiss: It's good to be here.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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Jason English (Host): You guys are

in the middle of a crazy First off,

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it's Cousin Curtiss and Harrison B.

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Live in the, uh, in preparation

for a show here in Atlanta.

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But, uh, yeah, you guys are

in the middle of a crazy tour.

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Is this like the biggest

tour you guys have done

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Harrison B: It's

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Cousin Curtiss: One of the longer ones

consecutively tour you guys have done?

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You're based in Colorado, Curtiss,

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Harrison B: But this is, this

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Cousin Curtiss: And

Harrison, you're based in

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Jason English (Host): you're, you're,

you're based in Colorado Curtiss, right?

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And then, uh, Harrison,

you're based in Seattle.

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So you guys.

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Packed up and drove this like

a road trip for you guys.

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It's basically up and

down the eastern seaboard,

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Cousin Curtiss: Pretty much, yeah.

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Yeah, that and like the heartland of

America and then going back out west.

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Jason English (Host):

Yeah, no, that's exciting.

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Have you do you typically tour

when you tour is it typically?

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Yeah, it's a good question.

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It's all over

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Cousin Curtiss: it's a good question.

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It's all over the place.

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So it's, um, we go as far as Alaska,

Maine, California, the pack Northwest,

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all the way down to florida.

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It's just kind of how best to do it.

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Um, you know,

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Harrison B: cohesively

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Cousin Curtiss: And then a lot of

this, uh, this, this whole tour has

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been kind of, I don't know, there's,

there were the landmarks that were the

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cornerstones of the shows and then, um,

filling in the blanks here and there have

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happened a little bit, uh, last minute

more so than some of the other tours,

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but in like the best way imaginable.

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And

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Jason English (Host): you're, you're able

to like fill in spots that are kind of on

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Cousin Curtiss: that's right.

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Yeah, absolutely.

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Yep.

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Jason English (Host): No, that's great.

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So, uh, I'm going to, I want to ask

about your backgrounds individually,

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but let's start with like the,

like you guys coming together.

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When did that happen

and how did that happen?

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Cousin Curtiss: That

happened many years ago.

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Um, probably like five, six years ago.

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We met for the first time in Alaska.

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We both have ties up there.

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Um, and, uh, went to a show that

Harrison B was playing with his bands.

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And just fell in love with the

sound, the style, the music.

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And then we continued to be in the

same scene together, meet up at

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festivals, started playing together.

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And then it just kind of took off.

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We had some really great opportunities.

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We kept chasing it and now it's full

time and we're four feet apart from one

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another for a 90 percent of the year,

every year for the last three years.

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Harrison B: Amen to that

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Jason English (Host): Yeah.

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So it's been about three years then.

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All right.

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That's interesting.

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So it was Alaska, right?

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Um,

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Harrison B: You

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Jason English (Host): were you guys,

so you, were you in a band Harrison?

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Harrison B: Yeah, I was just frontin

the Power Trio that I did for a

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number of years, kinda me and Curtiss

really started runnin real hard.

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Jason English (Host): Yeah.

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Okay.

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Um, so it's, you know, you guys

both play guitar, then you have

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a kick drum and a harmonica.

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Cousin Curtiss: Nice.

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Jason English (Host): I've seen you a

couple of times at the 30th festival.

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You guys sound like

you're like a five piece,

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Cousin Curtiss: five piece.

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Thanks, man.

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Jason English (Host): I bet

that's intentional, right?

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Cousin Curtiss: is, yeah.

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Yeah.

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And we've, we've been very, uh,

deliberate about how do we do this?

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How can we cover all of the, like, the

spectrums dynamic wise of the EQ, you

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know, from the low end of kick drum,

bass guitar, all the way up to the highs

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of acoustic harmonica, vocals, etc.

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And it's been a journey.

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It didn't start like that.

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So it's been fun to, like,

get done playing the show and

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being like, There's room here.

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We can, we can fill something here.

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How do we do that?

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And going so far as to

like nerd out on ways.

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And I feel like you should take over on

this part, especially with the electric

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guitar, but like finding ways to do

something that we, we are not seeing other

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people do, and that doesn't mean that it's

not happening, but it's fun to believe

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in the pioneership, if that's a word of,

of what we're doing as a two piece band,

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Jason English (Host): Right.

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If someone was to ask, cause I, you know,

when you guys are coming to town, people

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are like, well, what kind of music is it?

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And I, I kind of struggled there.

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Describe it.

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Cause I don't know if there's a,

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Cousin Curtiss: Ha ha

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Jason English (Host): yeah, I don't know

if there's a good description, right?

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I was like, he's kind of rock.

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It's kind of country.

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I don't know.

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It's like jam country.

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I don't know.

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Cousin Curtiss: it used to be like

the tagline phrase was like blues

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at bluegrass speeds, and now it's

really, uh, gravitated towards

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more of like a rock Americana.

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High energy vibe.

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I don't know if, yeah, there's been

some other words that like people

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have, you know, taking creative

license with a bio that we send them

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and then they doctor it up some way

and it's like, Hey, that's not bad.

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That's a good way to put it.

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Um, yeah, yeah.

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It's been fun.

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Harrison B: fun.

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Yeah, I would say, you know, in

terms of standard words, rockin

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Americana, get thrown out there a lot.

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But ultimately, you know, everything

that either you or Curtiss or

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anyone else is using to describe it,

probably accurate, because it's so

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many different things kind of blended

up into a sound that, um, you know,

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depending on what song it is, it's what

influences we're actually chasing, so.

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Jason English (Host): Yeah, that's neat.

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So I mentioned the 38 singer

songwriter festival and you guys are

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playing a bunch of festivals, but

also back to Opelika, which is, uh,

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also a singer songwriter festival.

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Do you consider yourself

a singer songwriter?

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Cousin Curtiss: Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I think it's, it's, I think it's, it might

be a little bit different in some people's

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eyes cause they might hear us and be

like, well, that's not singer songwriter,

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but it's like, well, we are singers

and we are songwriters by definition.

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So it is, it just might

be a little bit different.

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Um, and that's not, it's

neither good nor bad.

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It's just that we are doing that job.

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Um, So to speak, and it's just happens

to be in a very high energy and we kind

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of in your face way of like presence.

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Yeah.

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Harrison B: because

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Jason English (Host): Well, cause

I think most, you know, the, I love

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singer songwriters, but you know,

sometimes you want to go jump off a

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bridge, you know, after listening,

like for you guys, it is the opposite.

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I mean, I, I think the, the big thing

with you, uh, with you all, when we

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saw you, me and my friends saw you in

January, and I think I told you this

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when I saw you, there's so much joy.

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When, when, when you're performing,

I mean, it's actually like you exude

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it at the beginning, the middle

and the end, you know, and, and

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everyone can't help but feel joyful

when you, when they listen to you.

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So it's, it's kind of like the opposite

of, you know, traditional singer

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Harrison B: sing a song right now.

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Right on

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Cousin Curtiss: Yeah, well, thank you.

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Yeah.

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Appreciate

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Jason English (Host): Yeah.

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Cousin Curtiss: Um, I think there's,

there's elements there where if you dig

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into the lyrics, uh, and if it were played

in a certain way, then, you know, you

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would have that, um, that internal look

of what you're listening to and where did

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the song come and the stories behind it.

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But I think for us, it's just

so much fun to just, uh, I

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don't know, go hard, I guess.

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guess.

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You know,

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Jason English (Host): way I

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Cousin Curtiss: kind of see it, um,

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Harrison B: You can only get

so far with an acoustic guitar.

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And so at the core of it,

everything that we do on that stage,

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everything that we play could be

easily represented with just such.

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But kind of what we bring to the table is,

you know, more of a fleshing out of that.

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And with just two dudes, you know,

it's, it can fit into some of these

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festivals that otherwise a band

might not be able to come into.

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But we've got a footprint that

is consistent with a singer

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songwriter for the most part.

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So, uh, it just kind of seems to work.

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Jason English (Host): That's really good.

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Where the joy comes from?

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It's genuine.

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It's, it's truly fun.

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Cousin Curtiss: no, there's

like, it's not faked.

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It's genuine.

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It's, it's truly fun.

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And at the beginning of every show,

like this is kind of like a peek into

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my brain, but like I'm looking around at

where we are and trying to take it in.

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Are we outside?

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Are we inside?

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Are there lights?

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Is there haze?

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Are people here?

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Are they not here?

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Does it matter?

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Who cares?

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And I'm trying to just enjoy the room and

it's, and that's, that's where I start.

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And then from there, the

rest of the night is gone.

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It's great because now we're

just, we're just playing music

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and we're doing what we love.

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Um, and yeah, some nights are harder,

some nights we're tired or whatever, but

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in that moment that, that is pure joy.

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And so it's fun to be able to share that.

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Jason English (Host): Yeah, no,

it's it completely comes across.

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So do you, do you all both write songs?

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Okay.

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I think you mentioned before we

started, uh, started the show that

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you're working on a studio album.

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Is that, is that something where you're

both going to have songs that you've

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co written or each written separately?

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Or is it mostly Curtiss

or is mostly Harrison?

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Uh,

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Cousin Curtiss: hoping for

the best of both worlds.

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I feel like we both have backgrounds

that, um, started in something

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similar, but we've lived completely

different lives and playing to each

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other's strengths is really what we're

working towards and leaning on one

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another to be like, what do you think?

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And, and trusting one another and

having, you know, that safety net.

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Um, During the creative writing process,

because I like, I don't, I don't know

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before we started playing together,

um, what your background was with like

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co writing, but I did not have one.

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And so it's very scary and very vulnerable

to be like, I have an idea and it

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wouldn't be with just anybody where I'd

be like, I have a, I have a loose idea.

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What do you think of these things so far?

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I wouldn't even share that with like

my family or like, you know, dear

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friends from childhood, but we sit

down and I'm like, I got like 18 words.

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Cool.

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What do you think about the kid?

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Take a listen to this

ham fisted guitar part.

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What do you think?

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Harrison B: You know, it's,

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is?

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Defining what objectively that looks

like in terms of a co writing experience

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kind of moving forward really getting

it streamlined But what I think Curtiss

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is really really good at is just pumping

out cool songs and he's really good at

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you know, he's he's either hook laden and

He's very lyrically driven and oriented.

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So it's all gonna be together

kind of what I'm excited about

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is, you know, bringing in

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uh, uh,

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Repetition format Uh, the ability to

just give him a bird's eye perspective

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on some ideas he already has and help

chop it down into kind of digestible

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chunks that are single songs.

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And sometimes, uh, it just

takes a second set of eyes and

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ears to get the wrap around it.

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And that's kind of what I'm hoping

to bring to the table for the most

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part, man, because he's, he knows

exactly what he wants to hear.

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I think that's cool.

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So just help him in when I can.

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Jason English (Host): so you mentioned

you are spending every sleeping

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waking moment together does the

songwriting happen on the road?

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when you guys are driving along or do

you save that for a different time?

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Harrison B: It, yeah.

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For the most

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Cousin Curtiss: for the real

like getting down to it.

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Here's an idea.

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Let's flesh it out and see what happens.

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Yeah, on like the day to day

basis on the road, like constantly

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making notes and writing things.

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Some of it is probably trash

and some of it could be good.

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Harrison B: Don't judge, bud,

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Cousin Curtiss: I know.

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Harrison B: Um,

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: 00:14:18

Cousin Curtiss: So yeah, that's, there's

like every night so far last, I think

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like four or five nights I'm writing

something and then I don't look at it

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: 00:14:25

until there's enough time to look at it

with like fresh eyes to see what's there.

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: 00:14:29

Um, and, and, and go from there or

be like, no, this was at two o'clock

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: 00:14:33

in the morning and you don't remember

writing it, like throw it away.

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Yeah.

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: 00:14:38

Jason English (Host): Well, how

do you guys kill time on the road?

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What do you listen to?

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Harrison B: Well,

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Cousin Curtiss: Well, two different

questions, I think, there.

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Yeah.

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Jason English (Host): right.

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Well, yeah.

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All right.

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You can answer them separately.

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right.

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: 00:14:47

Cool.

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: 00:14:47

Um, time,

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Cousin Curtiss: Time killing time on

the road and I, well, we had a very

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unique experience today and it's going

to timestamp today, but we like to golf.

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: 00:14:57

Yeah.

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: 00:14:58

And there's other things

that we enjoy doing.

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Um, you know, uh, enjoying the local

foods or wherever we're at trying

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to find downtime and quiet spaces,

but yeah, golf's a great time.

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: 00:15:08

Um, cause you can make it wherever you

want to make it and, uh, Today it was

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great to be able to go out and just

shoot a good scratch round of golf

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at, uh, Atlanta National Golf Club.

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Um, and, uh, you know, get pretty

close to the course record.

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That was nice.

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: 00:15:23

Jason English (Host): The rumor has

it someone chipped in on 18 for a par.

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Harrison B: part, you know, for for

one of the scarcest parts of the day.

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: 00:15:29

But yeah, you did.

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: 00:15:31

I'm gonna take that.

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: 00:15:32

My man, it happened.

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: 00:15:32

It happened.

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Cousin Curtiss: they CCTV.

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: 00:15:34

I

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Harrison B: Oh, I hope they do.

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: 00:15:36

Cousin Curtiss: now.

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Jason English (Host): Do you guys?

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I think one, you know, there was

a, I was part of the foursome.

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I think one guy actually

had a birdie today.

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Do you guys remember who that

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: 00:15:44

Cousin Curtiss: There was, yeah, there was

a, yeah, yeah, there was a birdie today.

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Jason English (Host): Not to, you

know, not to, not to rub it in,

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Cousin Curtiss: no.

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Jason English (Host): fine.

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Harrison B: I did.

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: 00:15:52

Jason English (Host): Um, no, but like,

who do you all listen to, uh, on the road?

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Do you listen to music?

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Cousin Curtiss: We do occasionally,

but for the most part, it's silence.

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: 00:16:00

Jason English (Host): really?

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Yeah.

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Cousin Curtiss: yeah, and that's, and that

is, I don't know, shockingly comfortable,

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and, and sometimes weirds people out,

um, but it's great for us because

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there's usually a lot of noise that's

always surrounding what we're doing.

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: 00:16:12

Um, there's some sort

of stimulus that's, uh,

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: 00:16:15

Harrison B: van and

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: 00:16:15

Cousin Curtiss: So then we get in

the van and we drive and, I mean, we

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had a five and a half hour drive from

where we were in Florida to get to

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Atlanta and the radio never came on

until like maybe the last 15 minutes

385

: 00:16:24

Jason English (Host): alright.

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: 00:16:24

Oh,

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: 00:16:25

Cousin Curtiss: it was like a

funny song that was stuck in our

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heads that we couldn't get out.

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: 00:16:27

So it was like, all right, no, we

have to play Rich Girl by Hall Oates.

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: 00:16:30

We just have to do this right now.

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Jason English (Host): that's good.

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: 00:16:34

Yeah.

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: 00:16:35

That's good.

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: 00:16:35

Uh, what are you guys thinking

about then when it's silent?

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: 00:16:38

Because that would drive me crazy.

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: 00:16:39

Yeah.

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: 00:16:40

Cousin Curtiss: Man, I don't, I mean,

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: 00:16:42

a

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lot.

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: 00:16:43

Yeah, like it's,

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: 00:16:44

Jason English (Host): Yeah.

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: 00:16:44

Harrison B: think about anything

sometimes, you know, on purpose.

403

: 00:16:47

Yeah,

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: 00:16:47

Cousin Curtiss: Keeping it between

the mayo and the mustard and

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: 00:16:49

just driving a straight line.

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: 00:16:50

And, and sometimes it's thoughts about it.

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: 00:16:52

Like, okay, well, you know, the, in my,

my mind is like logistically where we're

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: 00:16:56

going, what time do we have to be there

loading in, like getting the details

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: 00:16:59

oriented, advancing the next few shows.

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: 00:17:02

And then, you know, it's, you

know, random things, you know,

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: 00:17:06

Jason English (Host): It's hard

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: 00:17:07

Cousin Curtiss: It's hard to explain.

413

: 00:17:08

I don't know.

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: 00:17:08

I feel like I'm giving a terrible answer.

415

: 00:17:10

Yeah.

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: 00:17:12

We'll

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: 00:17:12

Harrison B: Yeah, like we'll,

we'll go through all that email

418

: 00:17:15

stuff, kind of at interval

419

: 00:17:17

Jason English (Host): So if I

could talk or ask you about kind

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: 00:17:20

of your backgrounds individually.

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: 00:17:21

So you live in Montrose, Colorado.

422

: 00:17:23

Is that right?

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: 00:17:24

Harrison B: live in Montrose now.

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: 00:17:24

Yeah.

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: 00:17:25

Jason English (Host): Are

you from Colorado originally?

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: 00:17:26

Michigan.

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: 00:17:26

Okay.

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: 00:17:27

How long have

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: 00:17:29

Cousin Curtiss: been in Colorado?

430

: 00:17:31

Okay.

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: 00:17:32

Jason English (Host): took you out there?

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: 00:17:33

Long story short.

433

: 00:17:35

Cousin Curtiss: so long story short,

left Alaska, traveled around the

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: 00:17:39

country for a year, playing music

full time to see if I could do it.

435

: 00:17:41

Ended up in Denver, Colorado.

436

: 00:17:44

Wasn't a huge fan of that.

437

: 00:17:45

Went on a tour out to California

and back playing shows and ended up

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: 00:17:49

passing through Telluride, Colorado.

439

: 00:17:51

Harrison B: And, uh,

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: 00:17:52

Cousin Curtiss: Played a show where

there wasn't a lot of people there,

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: 00:17:54

but the ones that were there were very

helpful And in a spot where they could

442

: 00:17:59

offer up a residency playing music at

Telluride ski resort So no, it was great.

443

: 00:18:06

Yeah.

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: 00:18:06

I was terrible at bargaining.

445

: 00:18:08

And so when they were like,

Hey, do you want to play music

446

: 00:18:10

here during the wintertime?

447

: 00:18:11

We've got two different venues, one's

on the mountain, one's down here.

448

: 00:18:14

And I was like, Oh

yeah, that sounds great.

449

: 00:18:16

Um, can I have a ski pass?

450

: 00:18:18

Like, I just

451

: 00:18:19

and they were like, Well, you

452

: 00:18:21

And they were like, Yeah.

453

: 00:18:22

And they were like, well, you

got to ride the chairlift up

454

: 00:18:25

to get to one of the venues.

455

: 00:18:26

So yeah, you're going to need a pass.

456

: 00:18:27

And I was like, I'm in.

457

: 00:18:29

So at that point in time, I'd, I'd had

that, that current winter coming up

458

: 00:18:33

was already booked out on the road.

459

: 00:18:35

Um, and, uh, so then afterwards I

came back and I played there for

460

: 00:18:40

four, um, winters and it was, you

know, 18 to 20 weeks straight,

461

: 00:18:44

uh, five to seven shows a week.

462

: 00:18:46

Um, And it was, it was

a cutting teeth moment.

463

: 00:18:51

Yeah.

464

: 00:18:52

It was one of those spots.

465

: 00:18:53

Jason English (Host): spots.

466

: 00:18:53

How early were, or how young were you

when, uh, you, you got into music?

467

: 00:18:58

Cousin Curtiss: Oh,

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: 00:19:00

14

469

: 00:19:00

14 roughly.

470

: 00:19:02

I can't remember if I was 13 or 14,

but my parents took me to a music

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: 00:19:05

festival in Marquette, Michigan

called Hiawatha music festival.

472

: 00:19:09

And, uh, they were super cool like that.

473

: 00:19:11

And I just fell in love with the late

night scene where, you know, in a kid's

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: 00:19:16

eyes, imagine looking at a bonfire and.

475

: 00:19:20

There's complete strangers around it,

like let's say 15 folks or so, and

476

: 00:19:24

they're all playing the same song.

477

: 00:19:27

None of them hardly know anybody,

um, that they're playing the song

478

: 00:19:31

with, but they're all doing it.

479

: 00:19:32

And I just saw that and I was like, I

want in, I want to know how to do this.

480

: 00:19:37

Like I, even from that age,

I knew I wanted to travel.

481

: 00:19:40

I wanted to get around and, and

just see the world Then that seemed

482

: 00:19:44

like a pretty sweet way to like a

G chord to G chord, wherever you're

483

: 00:19:49

going, you know, go from there.

484

: 00:19:51

So I picked up the guitar, learned, um,

you know, a little bit there, put it back

485

: 00:19:55

down cause I was young and I wanted to

play football and all that kind of stuff.

486

: 00:19:59

And then picked it up about a year later

and haven't put it down since then.

487

: 00:20:09

Yeah, for sure.

488

: 00:20:11

There's probably like, yeah.

489

: 00:20:13

Harrison B: oh man,

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: 00:20:13

Cousin Curtiss: Probably two

main, like, eras of doing that.

491

: 00:20:18

And one would have been in

college, and the other one

492

: 00:20:21

would have been in Telluride.

493

: 00:20:22

Um, playing that much,

and not having a choice.

494

: 00:20:27

Like, you don't get to play

30 minutes, it was four hours.

495

: 00:20:30

And that was like, Again, like

some days that we are some

496

: 00:20:33

weeks that was five days a week.

497

: 00:20:35

Um, and you know, if you were lucky

other days, it was three days a

498

: 00:20:39

Jason English (Host): a week.

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: 00:20:39

And sometimes

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: 00:20:40

Cousin Curtiss: you'd have

to fill in for somebody else.

501

: 00:20:41

And it was just like, okay, cool.

502

: 00:20:43

What do I do now?

503

: 00:20:44

Or do I just get really

hyper focused on it?

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: 00:20:49

errorless playing

505

: 00:20:50

I've played this song a thousand times.

506

: 00:20:52

How do I do it without making

any mistakes whatsoever?

507

: 00:20:56

And then once you do that, all right,

now how do I make spontaneity fit in and

508

: 00:20:59

just continuing to try to stay engaged?

509

: 00:21:02

Um, but yeah, yeah, definitely.

510

: 00:21:04

That was, that was a good

spot to, to hone the craft.

511

: 00:21:07

Jason English (Host):

Yeah, that's awesome.

512

: 00:21:08

Um,

513

: 00:21:09

So

514

: 00:21:10

so being in Colorado and I'm sure you

have aspirations to take your talent

515

: 00:21:14

and your music to the next level.

516

: 00:21:16

To as many people that want

to hear it as possible, right?

517

: 00:21:19

Does being in Colorado, especially

like not just Denver, which is kind of

518

: 00:21:23

not isolated, but it's in the middle

of nowhere, you know, with Kansas

519

: 00:21:27

and Nebraska and Wyoming all around,

but Montrose is even more remote.

520

: 00:21:30

how have you thought through

that in terms of your career?

521

: 00:21:33

You know, do you think you'll be able to

do what you want to do based in Montrose?

522

: 00:21:39

Have you, or have you thought

about, you know, going to

523

: 00:21:40

Nashville or Austin or whatever?

524

: 00:21:42

Cousin Curtiss: I don't think I have at

this point in time, any desire to move.

525

: 00:21:46

I think there's some core principles.

526

: 00:21:48

core tenets of my happiness and

that's my home life and road life.

527

: 00:21:53

And I enjoy traveling.

528

: 00:21:54

I genuinely do.

529

: 00:21:55

And it's a lot, and there's a lot

of stressors that go along with

530

: 00:21:58

it, but I like being in Montrose.

531

: 00:22:01

Airports make it a little bit

easier to travel around if

532

: 00:22:04

we need to fly in, fly out.

533

: 00:22:05

Driving, you just kind of, you

get into that mind frame of like,

534

: 00:22:08

Okay, well, it's going to be a two

day drive before the tour starts.

535

: 00:22:12

Um, or you keep things local and you're

like, Well, we're going to hit Colorado

536

: 00:22:16

hard and then we're going to go to Utah.

537

: 00:22:17

And now our, our driving

radius is, 500 miles or less.

538

: 00:22:23

Um, there is sometimes like a little

bit of envy when I, like I'm following

539

: 00:22:29

bands on Instagram or whatever,

and I'm seeing their tour schedule

540

: 00:22:31

and they're based out of spots like

Atlanta, Nashville, like some of these

541

: 00:22:35

hubs where they can drive two hours.

542

: 00:22:39

Um, and they're never going to

oversaturate a market ever because

543

: 00:22:43

there's that many people, there's

that many towns and that many venues.

544

: 00:22:46

Yeah.

545

: 00:22:47

So there's, there's certainly.

546

: 00:22:48

certainly

547

: 00:22:49

situation with being in those areas.

548

: 00:22:52

con situation

549

: 00:22:53

Um, but yeah, I, I like my desert.

550

: 00:22:56

I like my mountains.

551

: 00:22:57

I like, yeah, my town.

552

: 00:22:59

It's, yeah, it's cool.

553

: 00:23:00

So

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: 00:23:01

Jason English (Host): like,

I like, I like the mountains.

555

: 00:23:07

I like, yeah.

556

: 00:23:09

the most amazing In the country.

557

: 00:23:11

Right.

558

: 00:23:12

And then obviously the, I think Colorado

559

: 00:23:16

isn't, uh, okay.

560

: 00:23:18

Cousin Curtiss: You're doing great man.

561

: 00:23:19

You're doing great.

562

: 00:23:19

Harrison B: y'all didn't see was,

for the first half of this interview,

563

: 00:23:23

I've had a cat named Roxy in my lap.

564

: 00:23:25

She is, uh, she's the forbidden friend.

565

: 00:23:28

Uh, I love her so much,

but I'm very allergic.

566

: 00:23:30

So, I've been sneezing for

the last five minutes, folks.

567

: 00:23:32

But we're back, we're back in action.

568

: 00:23:34

Jason English (Host): Roxy.

569

: 00:23:34

All right.

570

: 00:23:35

All right.

571

: 00:23:40

Good, good segue.

572

: 00:23:42

No, but Colorado, the thing that people

don't understand about Colorado is

573

: 00:23:45

Colorado is Colorado in the summer.

574

: 00:23:47

Yeah.

575

: 00:23:48

Right.

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: 00:23:48

I mean, sure, skiing's

great, but I don't know.

577

: 00:23:51

You can't beat it in the summer.

578

: 00:23:52

Cousin Curtiss: can't

beat it in the summer.

579

: 00:23:53

So, uh, now I want to ask

Harrison about your background.

580

: 00:24:04

I've talked to

581

: 00:24:07

Jason English (Host): no, that's good.

582

: 00:24:08

Well, so, uh, then I'll, I want

to ask about Harrison, about your

583

: 00:24:12

background, but, um, you know, I've

talked to a few singer songwriters

584

: 00:24:16

in the last few months, they all,

585

: 00:24:19

all, but they all tend to have something,

whether it's their childhood, something

586

: 00:24:24

that happened when they were adult

heartbreak, grief, you know, uh,

587

: 00:24:28

addiction, whatever that really has sort

of been their turning point in their life.

588

: 00:24:32

That's really inspired their music.

589

: 00:24:35

Hey.

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: 00:24:36

Do you have something like that, you know,

with, like, that's part of your story?

591

: 00:24:40

Or is it just about the joy of music

and songwriting and performing?

592

: 00:24:44

Cousin Curtiss: Yeah.

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: 00:24:45

Um, I mean, it's, it's all those things.

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: 00:24:48

Um, and it's over

different periods of life.

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: 00:24:52

And, uh, I think one of the biggest

turning points for me was leaving.

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: 00:24:56

A teaching career,

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: 00:24:58

to

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: 00:24:58

be a full time musician.

599

: 00:25:00

And that was, that was eye opening.

600

: 00:25:02

And I was like, okay, cool.

601

: 00:25:03

Well, now you're living your dreams

and you're doing this, but like, how,

602

: 00:25:08

like, what are you going to write about?

603

: 00:25:09

And then it was being on the road and.

604

: 00:25:12

Knowing that there was a greener pasture

quote unquote to like go back to to go

605

: 00:25:17

back to teaching I could always do that.

606

: 00:25:19

I like got my license I could do that

but purposefully not because this

607

: 00:25:23

thing felt more important It felt

more impactful um, and it was so hard

608

: 00:25:30

do that.

609

: 00:25:31

Yeah.

610

: 00:25:31

So there's.

611

: 00:25:32

Harrison B: that

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: 00:25:32

Cousin Curtiss: yeah, so there's some of

the earlier songs are definitely about

613

: 00:25:35

that of like that constant struggle And

then everywhere and in between of those

614

: 00:25:40

things Those, um, you know, categories

of songwriting that you listed there

615

: 00:25:45

from, uh, you know, it's just all

616

: 00:25:47

Jason English (Host): that.

617

: 00:25:48

All of it's in there, yeah.

618

: 00:25:49

Well, that's a big, I mean, that's

a big deal for you to, to kind of

619

: 00:25:51

leave something that's safe behind,

620

: 00:25:55

Cousin Curtiss: right?

621

: 00:25:55

Yeah.

622

: 00:25:56

Like

623

: 00:25:56

Jason English (Host): A regular

paycheck, you know, all, all the, the

624

: 00:25:58

consistency of life, you know, for you

to, like, pursue what, what you want to

625

: 00:26:02

Cousin Curtiss: everything and just

going and trying and seeing what happened

626

: 00:26:05

and like, uh, yeah, like my friends and

family thought I was crazy and it took

627

: 00:26:09

them a little while, understandably

so to be like, what are you doing?

628

: 00:26:12

When are you going back to teaching?

629

: 00:26:13

Like, this is a joke, that kind of thing.

630

: 00:26:14

And, and there was, you know, little by

little there was more support and love and

631

: 00:26:19

encouragement and I'm so very thankful.

632

: 00:26:21

Jason English (Host): What did you teach?

633

: 00:26:22

Cousin Curtiss: Middle school,

high school, English language arts.

634

: 00:26:24

Jason English (Host): Oh, I

bet you were a good teacher.

635

: 00:26:27

Cousin Curtiss: Well, I

was, yeah, it was fun.

636

: 00:26:28

Yeah.

637

: 00:26:29

I had a good time.

638

: 00:26:30

I'd like to think I was an all

right teacher, but I think I was a

639

: 00:26:32

bit more stern and strict than life

640

: 00:26:34

Jason English (Host): So was that in

Alaska or did you teach in Colorado?

641

: 00:26:37

Harrison B: No,

642

: 00:26:38

Cousin Curtiss: Taught in Alaska.

643

: 00:26:38

Jason English (Host): Nice.

644

: 00:26:39

All

645

: 00:26:40

Cousin Curtiss: Yeah.

646

: 00:26:41

Jason English (Host): All right.

647

: 00:26:42

So Harrison, did you grow up in Seattle?

648

: 00:26:44

Harrison B: I grew up in

Murfeesboro, Tennessee.

649

: 00:26:46

Oh, yeah.

650

: 00:26:46

Last cast is to be very specific.

651

: 00:26:48

Okay.

652

: 00:26:49

Yeah.

653

: 00:26:49

Cousin Curtiss: That's

654

: 00:26:50

Jason English (Host): Is that

East Tennessee or is that West

655

: 00:26:51

Harrison B: Dead center middle.

656

: 00:26:52

Jason English (Host): Alright.

657

: 00:26:53

Are you a Vols fan?

658

: 00:26:55

Harrison B: Oh, at this point, no, I

mean, if I see him on the TV, I'm not

659

: 00:26:58

rooting against him, you know, but I

don't wear the paraphernalia and I don't

660

: 00:27:02

really attest to watching every week,

661

: 00:27:03

Jason English (Host): Yeah.

662

: 00:27:04

Harrison B: wish him well.

663

: 00:27:05

Jason English (Host): How

soon did you get into music?

664

: 00:27:07

How early?

665

: 00:27:09

Harrison B: Um, You know, from a

serious perspective, kind of chasing

666

: 00:27:13

down what we do now, not till later

in life, not till I was kind of

667

: 00:27:16

getting towards the end of college.

668

: 00:27:18

Um, I was in chorus from the time

I remember leading singing when I

669

: 00:27:21

was real little, that sort of thing.

670

: 00:27:23

But, you know, playing guitar

and singing, writing songs,

671

: 00:27:27

Jason English (Host): playing guitar

672

: 00:27:28

Harrison B: somewhere in

673

: 00:27:29

Jason English (Host): and writing songs.

674

: 00:27:30

It worked in some way.

675

: 00:27:33

Um, a little bit less so.

676

: 00:27:36

Played baseball

677

: 00:27:37

Harrison B: So, um, played baseball

through college, got done with that

678

: 00:27:41

and, uh, had a degree in marketing

and management knew I didn't

679

: 00:27:44

want to go straight into that.

680

: 00:27:44

Although I flirted with it for a

little bit, went to Alaska was a

681

: 00:27:47

zip line tour guide for six months.

682

: 00:27:49

Um, around that time I'd started

playing like singer songwriter style

683

: 00:27:52

stuff in Nashville in particular.

684

: 00:27:53

So I was doing like the country scene.

685

: 00:27:55

Um, just didn't feel like it was a real

good fit was going around doing all

686

: 00:27:58

the rounds, all that sort of thing.

687

: 00:28:00

Uh, knew I was wanting to do

something a little different.

688

: 00:28:02

So moved to Alaska, quit playing for

about six months, picked it back up

689

: 00:28:06

there towards the end and kind of had

discovered things about maybe the South

690

: 00:28:09

and Tennessee and all those sounds that

I liked and, uh, maybe some of the things

691

: 00:28:13

I wanted to do a little differently.

692

: 00:28:15

Um, that space was the first time I kind

of got out of that environment from where

693

: 00:28:18

you hear country and the gas station

and the grocery store and everywhere.

694

: 00:28:22

That's it.

695

: 00:28:22

That's it.

696

: 00:28:23

So, you know, just gave me a

little bit of a chance to see

697

: 00:28:25

what I was really in it for.

698

: 00:28:27

So,

699

: 00:28:27

Jason English (Host): Okay.

700

: 00:28:34

Well, when you were in the

other room, sneezing your head

701

: 00:28:36

Harrison B: off I don't know

what you're talking about, dude.

702

: 00:28:37

I handled it like a pro.

703

: 00:28:39

Jason English (Host): the

704

: 00:28:39

Cousin Curtiss: gonna we're

gonna cut through we can keep

705

: 00:28:41

it we can cut it we can do

706

: 00:28:42

Harrison B: it.

707

: 00:28:42

We can do

708

: 00:28:42

Jason English (Host): no, it's all good.

709

: 00:28:43

I asked, I asked Curtiss about,

you know, has he thought through

710

: 00:28:47

just the reality of being based.

711

: 00:28:50

In a remote part of Colorado, right?

712

: 00:28:52

As it relates to the career and

aspirations and exposure, right?

713

: 00:28:56

So you've You've actually been, you've

done the Nashville thing, right?

714

: 00:29:00

You know what that is, and you're, you

live in Seattle, which it's not that

715

: 00:29:04

remote, but it's, you know, it's, it's

not known as music city other than,

716

: 00:29:08

you know, grunge rock from the 90s.

717

: 00:29:10

But do you, do you see that as a,

like, what's your perspective on that?

718

: 00:29:13

Having been in Nashville and now live

in Seattle, do you think it matters?

719

: 00:29:17

Harrison B: Like what your hometown is?

720

: 00:29:18

Jason English (Host): Well, not with

the hometown, but, uh, just from terms

721

: 00:29:20

of, you know, Growing your visibility,

growing your presence, and getting more

722

: 00:29:27

ears and eyes on your art, you know?

723

: 00:29:29

Harrison B: well Yes, and no and it

kind of depends on where you're at.

724

: 00:29:32

I feel like Kind of at our juncture

like where we're talking to you today

725

: 00:29:37

in this game where we live isn't

as Much of consequence because the

726

: 00:29:42

majority of our exposure, visibility

and touring are done on the road.

727

: 00:29:46

So home is home, which

could be anywhere for me.

728

: 00:29:49

The reason, I mean, when I was local

in Seattle, I enjoyed, there's a deep

729

: 00:29:53

scene, they're still alive very much.

730

: 00:29:55

So KEXP is one of the largest independent

stations, you know, just shout out them.

731

: 00:30:00

Um, but beyond that, even

like there's a great airport

732

: 00:30:03

there and we can go anywhere.

733

: 00:30:05

And when we're touring the country at

this point, pretty legitimately, you know,

734

: 00:30:10

That's just factual what's happening.

735

: 00:30:11

So it's like, as long as we can fly

somewhere that makes sense, as long as

736

: 00:30:15

you can get into Denver, get in the van,

that sort of thing, if we're on the West,

737

: 00:30:18

you know, we could live where we need to,

you know, kind of be wherever you want,

738

: 00:30:22

Right.

739

: 00:30:23

that's kind of what it

feels like at this point.

740

: 00:30:24

Um, there definitely is some credence

to, you know, if you, if you're

741

: 00:30:27

trying to just get your feet on the

ground and make some connections,

742

: 00:30:30

that sort of thing, Nashville is a big

743

: 00:30:31

a big deal for you.

744

: 00:30:32

Um,

745

: 00:30:33

You know, with those increased

numbers come, uh, more of a wave of

746

: 00:30:37

talent you need to fight through.

747

: 00:30:38

Um, and, uh, you just got to remain

authentic through that whole deal.

748

: 00:30:42

Um, I think would be the key there.

749

: 00:30:44

But other than that, once you, you know,

kind of established your tour and you're

750

: 00:30:48

doing your thing, home should be home.

751

: 00:30:51

And when you're there, you shouldn't be

worried about seeing eyeballs, I think.

752

: 00:30:53

But that's just my take,

753

: 00:30:54

Jason English (Host): It goes back to

754

: 00:30:56

Cousin Curtiss: goes back to

what I was saying about Montrose.

755

: 00:30:58

It's like, it is what it

is and it's where it's at.

756

: 00:31:00

And I love it.

757

: 00:31:02

So it's, it's go home and it's like,

that's that, that big deep breath sigh.

758

: 00:31:06

Now I'm home.

759

: 00:31:08

I'm not this.

760

: 00:31:09

Like there is a clear distinction

between, you know, always being

761

: 00:31:13

on when you're on the road.

762

: 00:31:14

And when you go home, you're

like, no, I just get to exist.

763

: 00:31:17

I just get to be me.

764

: 00:31:18

Harrison B: Yeah.

765

: 00:31:18

Jason English (Host): that's great.

766

: 00:31:19

All right.

767

: 00:31:20

Um, so just a couple more questions.

768

: 00:31:22

Uh, I want to talk about one of the songs.

769

: 00:31:24

So one of my favorites is Little Change.

770

: 00:31:27

Was that written in a period of, you know,

talking about the change of the career?

771

: 00:31:31

What, what, what inspired that song?

772

: 00:31:33

Cousin Curtiss: inspired that song?

773

: 00:31:39

Realizing that playing shows that don't

make you happy, um, should not be a thing

774

: 00:31:46

there's, you know, you can't just cut

everything and play shows that make you

775

: 00:31:50

happy and then forget you got to still

pay bills, but there's a mental shift,

776

: 00:31:54

a paradigm shift, um, that happened when

that song came out to where I said no

777

: 00:31:58

to one thing that I knew could be safe

forever and it wasn't the teaching career.

778

: 00:32:02

It was just like a consistency, um,

that, you know, it was always going to be

779

: 00:32:07

there and it wasn't what the end result.

780

: 00:32:10

It wasn't what I wanted.

781

: 00:32:11

So it was like, cool.

782

: 00:32:14

Then scrub it.

783

: 00:32:15

Cut it out with scissors.

784

: 00:32:16

It's done.

785

: 00:32:17

Move on.

786

: 00:32:17

And see what happens next.

787

: 00:32:18

And that was a very scary leap.

788

: 00:32:20

And that song is based on that.

789

: 00:32:22

I

790

: 00:32:23

Jason English (Host): love it.

791

: 00:32:23

I've seen a performance of that

when it was you and someone

792

: 00:32:27

else from a few years ago

793

: 00:32:29

Cousin Curtiss: Sure.

794

: 00:32:29

Yeah,

795

: 00:32:30

Jason English (Host): what happens

796

: 00:32:33

Cousin Curtiss: sky bonus tracks.

797

: 00:32:34

You guys

798

: 00:32:34

Jason English (Host): You know, it's

799

: 00:32:39

very scary.

800

: 00:32:42

So, you know, one of my friends bought

one of your CDs, like it was like a

801

: 00:32:45

live CD in Florida and he, you know,

he, he's listened to it and he's like,

802

: 00:32:49

is it, was it the guy that we saw him?

803

: 00:32:51

It was at the two guys we saw in Florida.

804

: 00:32:53

And I'm like, I don't think so.

805

: 00:32:54

And then I sent him that video

and he's like, it's, that

806

: 00:32:57

sounds way better now, you

807

: 00:32:59

Cousin Curtiss: It's different.

808

: 00:32:59

Yeah.

809

: 00:33:00

Jason English (Host): Even

that song, it's different,

810

: 00:33:02

Cousin Curtiss: Yeah.

811

: 00:33:03

Jason English (Host): Seriously.

812

: 00:33:04

I'm not trying to, I'm not

trying to like, you know,

813

: 00:33:06

Harrison B: was a

814

: 00:33:06

Cousin Curtiss: was a fun video shoot.

815

: 00:33:08

Yeah.

816

: 00:33:08

It was wild.

817

: 00:33:08

Big, the folks that run big

sky bonus track shout out like

818

: 00:33:11

they, they do a great job.

819

: 00:33:12

They run a tight ship, but yeah, we

were on the inside of a barn, like

820

: 00:33:15

next to a highway behind a bar.

821

: 00:33:17

And they, they, they were

like, all right, cool.

822

: 00:33:20

This is the plan.

823

: 00:33:20

We're like, sick.

824

: 00:33:21

We're in, we'd been on the road

for a couple of weeks and we

825

: 00:33:24

had covered some serious ground.

826

: 00:33:26

And then we got there

and yeah, it was a trip.

827

: 00:33:28

Jason English (Host): Oh, that's good.

828

: 00:33:29

That's good.

829

: 00:33:30

What do you, uh, so after the

tour, what do you guys have planned

830

: 00:33:33

for the rest of 2024 in terms of

releases and things like that?

831

: 00:33:37

Cousin Curtiss: in terms of releases,

um, that's going to be a TB, a TBD.

832

: 00:33:41

Yeah.

833

: 00:33:41

It's one of those things where

like we're on the road right now.

834

: 00:33:43

So it's hard to think about getting

back into the studio and, um, you

835

: 00:33:47

know, hammering down on some new tunes.

836

: 00:33:49

Cause we like touring.

837

: 00:33:51

That's, that's what we do.

838

: 00:33:52

That's what we're good at.

839

: 00:33:53

And so we do that and we schedule

like we were getting phone calls

840

: 00:33:57

today about exciting opportunities

happening in the coming months.

841

: 00:34:00

And our summer is absolutely jam packed.

842

: 00:34:03

So we're looking at it now as Like

these are the exciting things this

843

: 00:34:07

summer is like striking while the

iron is hot Opening up and supporting

844

: 00:34:11

for other bands headlining things on

our own that you know We've either

845

: 00:34:15

done in the past or it's new to us.

846

: 00:34:17

We're really riding that wave and

enjoying every moment of it Um, and

847

: 00:34:21

then we'll figure out a time to get

back in the studio The material is there

848

: 00:34:25

Jason English (Host): Oh, yeah

849

: 00:34:26

Cousin Curtiss: continue coming.

850

: 00:34:27

Um, and so we just need

Dedicated time to hammer it out.

851

: 00:34:30

But for now, we're having

a blast with what we're

852

: 00:34:32

Jason English (Host): time to do that.

853

: 00:34:34

No, that's good.

854

: 00:34:35

Alright.

855

: 00:34:36

Well, question for each of

856

: 00:34:38

Cousin Curtiss: today?

857

: 00:34:39

Most curious about today,

like in life, like,

858

: 00:34:42

Jason English (Host): where,

yeah, in life, yeah, yeah.

859

: 00:34:44

Cousin Curtiss: You

got a hot take on that?

860

: 00:34:45

I think I

861

: 00:34:46

Harrison B: I do I think it's

uh You I'm curious what Pete

862

: 00:34:49

Dye, you know, who hurt him?

863

: 00:34:51

Jason English (Host): that.

864

: 00:34:51

Okay.

865

: 00:34:52

Harrison B: curious who hurt Pete

Dye to make him stick bunkers on

866

: 00:34:56

the sides of 40 foot vertical grass

walls and then another one halfway

867

: 00:35:00

up the thing as well, you know?

868

: 00:35:02

So I'd love to ask him that.

869

: 00:35:03

I'm curious.

870

: 00:35:05

Who hurt Pete Dye?

871

: 00:35:06

Cousin Curtiss: beat, Doc.

872

: 00:35:07

We're gonna bring that to the

people, um, and get it out there.

873

: 00:35:11

We need an answer ASAP, just

so we can understand it.

874

: 00:35:14

What am I curious about, you know?

875

: 00:35:16

Jason English (Host): Uh,

876

: 00:35:17

Cousin Curtiss: I guess it's, uh

877

: 00:35:18

Jason English (Host): lot of lip syncing.

878

: 00:35:21

Cousin Curtiss: the van doing?

879

: 00:35:23

Uh,

880

: 00:35:24

Harrison B: I

881

: 00:35:24

Cousin Curtiss: mean, there's a

lot of like simple curiosities.

882

: 00:35:28

Like, uh, yeah.

883

: 00:35:30

Jason English (Host): just life.

884

: 00:35:32

Getting through the,

getting through the day.

885

: 00:35:33

Cousin Curtiss: Yeah, can I

go to space at some point?

886

: 00:35:36

I have a really nice NASA shirt.

887

: 00:35:37

I've been wearing it a lot.

888

: 00:35:39

Um, you know.

889

: 00:35:42

There's some other things, but yeah, those

are probably two that are on the top.

890

: 00:35:46

Harrison B: my list.

891

: 00:35:46

Curtiss,

892

: 00:35:46

Jason English (Host): can I just

tell you, as a former teacher,

893

: 00:35:49

as a former teacher, I would have

expected, I would have expected more,

894

: 00:35:55

Cousin Curtiss: I know just,

just dropping the ball on the hot

895

: 00:35:58

take with the curious curiosity.

896

: 00:36:00

Yeah.

897

: 00:36:00

I mean, no, I don't know

what I would say otherwise.

898

: 00:36:03

Yeah.

899

: 00:36:03

Jason English (Host): All right.

900

: 00:36:04

Well, I, I enjoyed spending

the day with you today

901

: 00:36:07

Cousin Curtiss: Hey

902

: 00:36:08

Harrison B: spending the day with you,

903

: 00:36:09

Jason English (Host): and, uh,

thanks for being here and thanks

904

: 00:36:10

for, uh, thanks for your time.

905

: 00:36:11

I, uh, I would love if you

guys played some music for us.

906

: 00:36:14

Harrison B: Heck yeah,

907

: 00:36:14

Cousin Curtiss: we're

stoked to play for you.

908

: 00:36:15

Thanks for everything.

909

: 00:36:16

Jason English (Host): Bye.

910

: 00:36:17

Harrison B: you, bud.

911

: 00:47:11

Jason English (Host): Thanks so

much for joining us for another

912

: 00:47:12

episode of Curious Goldfish.

913

: 00:47:14

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914

: 00:47:18

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915

: 00:47:22

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